Comments on: Who are we not hearing from? http://writelife.net/2009/09/02/who-are-we-not-hearing-from/ asking questions and discovering how little I know Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bill http://writelife.net/2009/09/02/who-are-we-not-hearing-from/comment-page-1/#comment-33718 Bill Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:50:52 +0000 http://writelife.net/?p=1710#comment-33718 Yes, I’ll give Valpy the fact that he got me thinking, but like you I don’t agree with him (well, maybe a bit on some things). I do, however, find his focus (and Eaves) on media, social and traditional, misleading. And that’s partly why I disagree with what Valpy concludes. If there is cohesion, or a lack of cohesion, it goes well beyond media and has social, cultural roots of which media is a part. You know, whenever I hear something on apathy, such as young people apathetic or recent immigrants or whatever, I always wonder, “Did you bother to ask them?” I think there is a sense of apathy in the population generally when it comes to large scale politics – provincial, federal – but that is the result of a system that has been co-opted by the micro-management of large parties, the obsession for control and the paranoia about saying something wrong. On that level, everyone’s primary message seems to be, “I’m not the other guy.” And seriously, who could get engaged by that? Yes, I’ll give Valpy the fact that he got me thinking, but like you I don’t agree with him (well, maybe a bit on some things). I do, however, find his focus (and Eaves) on media, social and traditional, misleading. And that’s partly why I disagree with what Valpy concludes. If there is cohesion, or a lack of cohesion, it goes well beyond media and has social, cultural roots of which media is a part.

You know, whenever I hear something on apathy, such as young people apathetic or recent immigrants or whatever, I always wonder, “Did you bother to ask them?” I think there is a sense of apathy in the population generally when it comes to large scale politics – provincial, federal – but that is the result of a system that has been co-opted by the micro-management of large parties, the obsession for control and the paranoia about saying something wrong. On that level, everyone’s primary message seems to be, “I’m not the other guy.” And seriously, who could get engaged by that?

]]> By: Bill http://writelife.net/2009/09/02/who-are-we-not-hearing-from/comment-page-1/#comment-57467 Bill Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:50:00 +0000 http://writelife.net/?p=1710#comment-57467 Yes, I’ll give Valpy the fact that he got me thinking, but like you I don’t agree with him (well, maybe a bit on some things). I do, however, find his focus (and Eaves) on media, social and traditional, misleading. And that’s partly why I disagree with what Valpy concludes. If there is cohesion, or a lack of cohesion, it goes well beyond media and has social, cultural roots of which media is a part. You know, whenever I hear something on apathy, such as young people apathetic or recent immigrants or whatever, I always wonder, “Did you bother to ask them?” I think there is a sense of apathy in the population generally when it comes to large scale politics – provincial, federal – but that is the result of a system that has been co-opted by the micro-management of large parties, the obsession for control and the paranoia about saying something wrong. On that level, everyone’s primary message seems to be, “I’m not the other guy.” And seriously, who could get engaged by that? Yes, I’ll give Valpy the fact that he got me thinking, but like you I don’t agree with him (well, maybe a bit on some things). I do, however, find his focus (and Eaves) on media, social and traditional, misleading. And that’s partly why I disagree with what Valpy concludes. If there is cohesion, or a lack of cohesion, it goes well beyond media and has social, cultural roots of which media is a part.

You know, whenever I hear something on apathy, such as young people apathetic or recent immigrants or whatever, I always wonder, “Did you bother to ask them?” I think there is a sense of apathy in the population generally when it comes to large scale politics – provincial, federal – but that is the result of a system that has been co-opted by the micro-management of large parties, the obsession for control and the paranoia about saying something wrong. On that level, everyone’s primary message seems to be, “I’m not the other guy.” And seriously, who could get engaged by that?

]]> By: Bree http://writelife.net/2009/09/02/who-are-we-not-hearing-from/comment-page-1/#comment-33695 Bree Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:12:18 +0000 http://writelife.net/?p=1710#comment-33695 I also was inspired to blog about this piece after you shared it on Facebook. Like you, I disagreed with many of Valpy's points - but he sure did get us thinking! My response is here: http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/08/30/be-not-deterred-by-the-wall-of-plaid/ I also was inspired to blog about this piece after you shared it on Facebook. Like you, I disagreed with many of Valpy’s points – but he sure did get us thinking! My response is here: http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/08/30/be-not-deterred-by-the-wall-of-plaid/

]]> By: Bree http://writelife.net/2009/09/02/who-are-we-not-hearing-from/comment-page-1/#comment-57466 Bree Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:12:00 +0000 http://writelife.net/?p=1710#comment-57466 I also was inspired to blog about this piece after you shared it on Facebook. Like you, I disagreed with many of Valpy's points - but he sure did get us thinking! My response is here: http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/08/30/be-not-deterred-by-the-wall-of-plaid/ I also was inspired to blog about this piece after you shared it on Facebook. Like you, I disagreed with many of Valpy’s points – but he sure did get us thinking! My response is here: http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/08/30/be-not-deterred-by-the-wall-of-plaid/

]]> By: Bill http://writelife.net/2009/09/02/who-are-we-not-hearing-from/comment-page-1/#comment-33678 Bill Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:08:28 +0000 http://writelife.net/?p=1710#comment-33678 I realized after reading this I didn't quite explain some of what I meant, particularly regarding Delany and social fragmentation. It has to do with identity. Who am I, as an individual and a society, when I can be anything and everything and there is so much to choose from? I realized after reading this I didn’t quite explain some of what I meant, particularly regarding Delany and social fragmentation. It has to do with identity. Who am I, as an individual and a society, when I can be anything and everything and there is so much to choose from?

]]> By: Bill http://writelife.net/2009/09/02/who-are-we-not-hearing-from/comment-page-1/#comment-57465 Bill Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:08:00 +0000 http://writelife.net/?p=1710#comment-57465 I realized after reading this I didn't quite explain some of what I meant, particularly regarding Delany and social fragmentation. It has to do with identity. Who am I, as an individual and a society, when I can be anything and everything and there is so much to choose from? I realized after reading this I didn’t quite explain some of what I meant, particularly regarding Delany and social fragmentation. It has to do with identity. Who am I, as an individual and a society, when I can be anything and everything and there is so much to choose from?

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